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General Category => Bots => Topic started by: Renegade on April 08, 2014, 03:54:06 AM

Title: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Renegade on April 08, 2014, 03:54:06 AM
A lot of people are vehemently against bots in any form. It seems a bit silly to me as it's just not possible to stop bots, so it might be better to simply figure out what makes sense.

At the moment we have a situation where at least 1 botter is controlling parts of the map to the detriment of the game. To me, this seems like hunting on a piece of land until every animal has become extinct there, or fishing until there are no more fish in the lake. Eventually you're going to starve...

The fact is that it is possible to completely usurp the map and drive out all players. This would certainly kill the game and drive the price of HUC to zero, which would result in miners abandoning Huntercoin. i.e. There has to be some kind of a balance between what makes sense for botters, and how botters can leave room for human players to play and enjoy the game.

Now, what that balance is, I don't really know, but I do know that it doesn't make sense for 1 botter (or a small number of players/botters) to dominate the game to the point that it isn't fun for anyone else.

On the other hand, I also think that it could be very profitable for botters to prey on other botters in order to maintain a kind of balance that would draw in more players and result in a better game.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on April 24, 2014, 06:24:34 PM
all the bots that are in the game are fine its the ones that kill you like bgbt bots that track you for anything more than .96 of a coin i have been playing since day 1 and the game is def fading and the game is no longer fun to play when your getting killed with 1.6 coins by bgbt bots..... bots are fine but lock down an area and let the rest of the players have some coins to .... the sheer fact that people are flooding the game with bots and not giving a shit about the real people who support the game is complete bullshit... its like they have the cheat codes to the game and we have to just sit and deal with it and keep pumping money into something with a close to nothing return now ..... people with the bots need to step back and try to play the game against what they have created and they will so understand how fucked it is to have your asshole bots all over the board pick a pocket and protect that but allow the players to have some part of the map where they can play without being tracked and assassinated with close to no coins the bgb bots are everywhere so much for responsible botting people like the ones in the middle and the ones who rape all other players for .96 coins is fucked how are we supposed to fight back when we actually have to control all our guys without the computer making moves for us.... if you want this coin to grow you cant monopolize it u have to allow others to enjoy and believe in it to..... but with assholes trolling the board on every color makes the game worthless to the people who you need it to matter most to the people with all the bitcoin willing to pump it into this game but not with the fuck sticks running the board the way it is now me and most everyone else will spend our btc on something more worth while until people start to realize the bots are nice but its us as the people who control the price and the value has dropped 30x since bots were introduced.... the value used to be .0035 now .00031 big difference hopefully people will pull their heads out their asses and work as a community not a back stabbing bitch fest of asshole bots running the board chasing out all new players and human players to the point to where the board is over run by bots and the only people that will be playing are the ones who got the bot compiling to work and fuck the rest of us .... pretty fucked up when someone has to bring all the card to the table to possible get a new view on how to make this coin worth something i wont even tell anyone about it cuz of the fucked bots controlling the map why advertise a system thats broken ..... so if your like me and cant stand the bullshit that has flooded that game lets work together to make the game more fun for everyone ....... with that being said i hope someone realizes something needs to change so that this coin doesn't become just a fart in the wind like the path that its on 
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on April 25, 2014, 11:05:51 PM
Here is my viewpoint.

I have two flavors of BGB bots running in the game right now. BGBT and BGBC. They make up only 1-2% of the generals. A couple of weeks ago the attack thresholds of these bots were 4-5 HUC based on the value of the tile or character. My ROI was pretty good but the game has changed in the last couple of weeks with more aggressive game play and organizations taking control of certain areas of the game.

Even though I only have 1-2% of the generals, I am also being heavily targeted, which is perfectly fine and I expect it. Of course I could easily start changing the bots name, coding in more evasive maneuvers etc... but I am okay with getting attacked, that is part of the game. With this my ROI has dropped significantly and I have compensated by lowering the attack threshold.

It is true a couple days ago I set a group of them at .95 because I wanted to shut down those bots and get rid of them and start fresh with some updates.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on April 26, 2014, 12:38:33 AM
it must be nice to not have to play ... ive have tried multiple times to compile your system and all i get are snood remarks just kinda makes the community feel shotty im cool with the bots just makes it really hard when your just trying to play to make 20 30 huc a day and the roi is shit for us real players now that we cant even run with .96 of a coin
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on April 26, 2014, 01:05:59 AM
it must be nice to not have to play ... ive have tried multiple times to compile your system and all i get are snood remarks just kinda makes the community feel shotty im cool with the bots just makes it really hard when your just trying to play to make 20 30 huc a day and the roi is shit for us real players now that we cant even run with .96 of a coin

use my client, you can avoid a lot of troubles and take advantages over bots, if played smart
anyway i'll add bot support too in the future, so you won't have problems with compiling stuffs, etc..

i think bot are stimulating, as a programmer prospective, i wish i could have time to do that but i focused on client, bot programming was by far a more profictable thing but i've chosen to invest in community (sounds like talking about charity lol)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: zy0n on April 26, 2014, 03:51:10 AM
it must be nice to not have to play ... ive have tried multiple times to compile your system and all i get are snood remarks just kinda makes the community feel shotty im cool with the bots just makes it really hard when your just trying to play to make 20 30 huc a day and the roi is shit for us real players now that we cant even run with .96 of a coin


Dude the bot was compiled and uploaded explicitly upon your request by BGB well over 12 days ago. Why are you still complaining. I've had characters with well over .96 coin return to base with no issues.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on April 26, 2014, 09:14:45 AM
where i didnt see a link was it the one where he said if you are feeling risky?
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on April 26, 2014, 09:18:04 AM
and im complaining because i have to micro manage every damn player with anything over .96 of a con and if i dont dead instantly and so have i when i get coins in the base :P
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: zy0n on April 26, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
where i didnt see a link was it the one where he said if you are feeling risky?
Yes, that's the one.

and im complaining because i have to micro manage every damn player with anything over .96 of a con and if i dont dead instantly and so have i when i get coins in the base :P
I used his bot to gather while I've been completing my bot system, in doing so I went from 100 coins to 0 twice, by failing to set proper destinations, I would lose 5-10 bot's at a time idiotically. But I sent out 20 bot's to smarter locations' had them come back around .55 coin and i slowly rebuilt my bank back up. You'll find the xy coordinates within gamemap.cpp at the bottom. BGB's release is a very minimalistic gather system, lacking in enemy detection/avoidance systems. But if you send your gatherers close to their base you should be fine. I've been doing quite well with yellow bot's, Red would probably be the safest base to gather at, but you'll be waiting a while for coin because of the mass ammount of characters in the coinspawns

But ive just set it and forget it man, it has done its duty for me,

Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on April 26, 2014, 12:44:01 PM
thank you for your help zyon means allot man many frustrated hours spent acomplishing nothing :P so many thanks to all your help
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
so after trying to play today i accidently killed a bgb and they tracked my whole team of guys and killed them all i think that is alittle extensive... i have noticed the extremely dramatic fall in price and have come to realize as a community for this coin we need to lighten up on the botting and make this game fun again the price has dropped so much due to over botting. the coin has no value when only a few people with intelligent bots get most of them ... everyone i have talked to has lost faith in the coin due to over botting so please as a community lets work together to help new comers make some coins without being raped for every coin they get by bots . No one is willing to pay for a coin that is monopolized so hopefully people will step back and look at what the overwhelming amount of bots has done to the price of this beautiful coin:( before its to late
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
I must say that in some way I agree, and that i tought to suggest stopping the coin being mined for a while, while fixing things, considering that at the moment very few people are playing and few peoples are gathering most of the coins leading to unfair distribution

maybe could have been an option, don't know what others things about it, maybe it's too late to stop

anyway bot won't be stopped, isn't possible and people have to play with and against but the more human player will play, the less the bot problem will be noticeable
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
so after trying to play today i accidently killed a bgb and they tracked my whole team of guys and killed them all i think that is alittle extensive...

Hmmm I would be curious to look at this and see what was going on. What was the name of the teams that were hunted down and approximate location/block so I can look it up? With the decrease in generals and pending game updates I have all of my BGB bots set to wind down (they won't make new players once killed off.)

I am mostly curious to look this up because my bots aren't designed to "chase" like you mentioned. Once they determine that an intercept point is not capable in "X" amount of turns, they will ignore the target. If they are truly chasing, there is no near intercept point. Now if you stop within their targeted range, they might pick you up as a target again and give the appearance they are chasing. But once you start to move away, they will ignore you again.

Also the largest "unfair distribution" that happened lately was the center being controlled for so long. Looking back and seeing how easy it was to disrupt this I should have engaged sooner instead of trying to attack the spawn area. I assumed it would be a constant battle for the center area that at the time I didn't have time to engage in on my own on a daily basis.

My algorithm for taking control of the center area is still running. I didn't expect to hold the center through the weekend since I wouldn't be around for any counter attack, and left it running to at least hold some ground for a few hours. But there hasn't been any challenge to the center...

Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
i suspect that center area holders have left huntercoin, players are settled around half respect before (generals were around 13/14k some days ago, now 8k)

about your bot, last few days i fought sometimes vs your bot and i saw exactly what you are saying, after evading their tries to catch me, they stopped to chase me (but if i stopped my moves, they started again to follow)

from what i've seen so far, your (or at least some kind of) bots have different hotspot near harvesting areas, where you wait for player to go out of that area to bank coins, at that point, when an hunter reach a range (more or less 8 tiles range, haven't counted that) of your duo (because your bots are at least coupled) they start moving trying to intercept hunter path (i suppose you try to anticipate enemy hunters intersecting his path at least 3 or 4 blocks before him, so you take into account the time it takes to accept your tx and you can have your hunter placed on the path 2 tiles ahead)

yesterday i've noticed a constant flow of your bots going to bank on any corner an high amount of hucs (they where 3 or 4 packed team holding 15+ hucs each, sometimes more) so i suppose your bot bank thousand hucs a day!!

i managed to intercepted a couple of "trains" , and missed a copule because i was afk and one of the train passed over my "ambush point", and one becaise i anticipated too much my destruction (you saved an hunter that were holding 70hucs  :D) (giving the unpredictable block generation time, anticipating 1 block isn't always a good choice :/)

another thing i noticed, is that i tried to collect coins taking advantage of your duo team that entered in a bank area, but your hunter destroyed himself 1 block before the target point, don't know if it was by design or just because you send the destruct tx 1 block before the target point, and that block took so long to be generated, that you destroyed 1 block earlier but it ended up destroing some of my placed hunters, screwing up my attempt :D

Then i experienced some of your team, teamed up in a tile, like if they wanted to have a party lol

and about your duo teams, sometimes they include a general, is that because your team was left with 2 hunters and you didn't want to recycle? (at least they are worth a +1 huc :D)

( Playing the game those days, I've even more concerned about the future changes of prices  and team with only generals: it would even be easier for bots to destroy others, more range mean less chance to avoid them and i suppose your bots won't giveup in few moves at that point :/ )
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
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from what i've seen so far, your (or at least some kind of) bots have different hotspot near harvesting areas, where you wait for player to go out of that area to bank coins, at that point, when an hunter reach a range (more or less 8 tiles range, haven't counted that) of your duo (because your bots are at least coupled) they start moving trying to intercept hunter path (i suppose you try to anticipate enemy hunters intersecting his path at least 3 or 4 blocks before him, so you take into account the time it takes to accept your tx and you can have your hunter placed on the path 2 tiles ahead)

The duos have an assigned destination and then a range (radius) to hunt within. When they reach that range they start looking for targets that meet the criteria they are looking for (moving vs not moving, minimum tile value, minimum player value, etc...) Sometimes I set their range to as little as 15 and sometimes as great as 80 depending on what the game dynamics are.

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yesterday i've noticed a constant flow of your bots going to bank on any corner an high amount of hucs (they where 3 or 4 packed team holding 15+ hucs each, sometimes more) so i suppose your bot bank thousand hucs a day!!

There is a train of red guys coming from the center (and sometimes blue). Since I can't babysit the center all day long, I chose to use 100s of players to carry small amounts of coins from the center to the base instead of a few players carrying large amounts of coin.

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another thing i noticed, is that i tried to collect coins taking advantage of your duo team that entered in a bank area, but your hunter destroyed himself 1 block before the target point, don't know if it was by design or just because you send the destruct tx 1 block before the target point, and that block took so long to be generated, that you destroyed 1 block earlier but it ended up destroing some of my placed hunters, screwing up my attempt :D

I try to destruct one block ahead of time in order for the best possible chances for an extra move if its late. Even the hunters have a priority of picking up loot laying around instead of hunting characters, so if they get an adjacent target, their first priority is to pick up the loot.

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Then i experienced some of your team, teamed up in a tile, like if they wanted to have a party lol

Sometimes that is laziness on my behalf from copying configuration files or duplicating the destinations. If there were more targets, they might not be piling up too. Or they could be stuck in pending jail. :)

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and about your duo teams, sometimes they include a general, is that because your team was left with 2 hunters and you didn't want to recycle? (at least they are worth a +1 huc :D)

The duo hunters will use their general to hunt. With a three person team char 1 and char 2 hunt together. If they both get killed, then the general will recycle. If they are successful in hunting, then char 1 brings back coins, then hooks up with the general to hunt again. Then if general and char 1 are successful, the general will bring back the coins, then recycle himself.

Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 05:43:18 PM
well something has to be done or this coin is going to flatline
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
and all those things you have mentioned about your bots... we dont have it .... and its affecting the way everyone looks at huntercoin. 90% of people wont buy because they believe ts a waste of time to compete with 2000 bots hence the dropping of price all because 2 or more bot runners control the whole board... if you think about it we dont release all our diamonds or they would be worth nothing the bots are flooding the market with careless sells of coins and it is hurting all of us  to the point where most have already lost faith in huc ...... i tried to say something many times about the fact that we are murdering the value of a beautiful thing and the bots can be stopped its called stop your script put a 0 instead of 1 and use the bots you already have ... in this situation the more huc you have the less its worth should be the other way around... and this is why the world doesn't allow monopolization..... in all regards if you held you huc and we had no bots it might be worth .0035 again think about it thats 3000% price decrease come on guys lets get this shit fixed before its to late... the only way i could see to fix it is have a set amount of players or teams an address can have like 4 per color or something like that after 4 teams the wait gets progressively longer as u make more teams to help neutralize what we have created
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 06:01:00 PM
and 491 392 was where i was just cleared the pocket and out of no where bgb kills me and causes me to loose 30 huc which now adays isnt shit .... with the price of huc dropping i think you should accomodate your bots to target 10 or more coins instead of rapeing everyone with coins ... makes it impossible for new players to make anything as well as players..... but if i was a new player dealing with a 9 day sync time and all the bots id say fuck trying this coin to like most people do ......which leads back to a few people controlling 80% of the coins.....  and when that happens the coins are only worth what the few bots owners that have all the coins are willing to pay or it follows what they have sold their coins for and makes it harder to have a value based off people when you only have a few people with all the huc and hence the plummet in value.. without people willing to pay this coins is a wash.... and i believe my guys name was backup.... either way i got screwed ... and if as a veteran player i cant even make 30 coins with mithril man then how do you think new players feel
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
and the fact that you cant look in any pocket on any color and not see a bgb thats a little extreme to try to take all the coins as a group i have seen what we can do in pumping and dumping .... but people have to feel or be inspired by a coin to pay for it and truthfully i wouldnt pay for huc either knowing that i have almost no chance of returning with coins.....and with the value where it is the time u spend playing doesn't pay off so therefore its a lost cause...if the coin was worth more no one would care about getting less but instead we get little coin return back from what we spend and they are worth jack squatery ... we rely on the auto run back to base to help us get coins we cant play 24/7 and thats the time the bgb rain down on people is when they are returning with their hard mined coins and bam all lost....i used to be a hardcore huc believe but even im starting to see the true light behind the clouds and instead of running the board y not have your bots help make the game fun by protecting the bases and helping build colors instead of driving the coin into the ground
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
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stop your script put a 0 instead of 1

I have already done this as of yesterday (except for the ones at the center which I will likely turn off tomorrow making them running for 1 week). They are dying off running their life cycle. Doesn't mean I won't turn some of them back on if I see something worth going after (like the build up of the green BGBT imposters).

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in all regards if you held you huc

As I have posted in earlier threads, I have NOT sold off a single HUC. I don't even know what the total I have is since its strung out across dozens of wallets. The QT Client bogs down greatly from disk I/O at 20k plus transactions. So when a bot wallet reaches +20k transactions I start transferring the players to a new wallet.

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the only way i could see to fix it is have a set amount of players or teams an address can have like 4 per color or something like that

It is not possible to limit bots in this way. I can run as many clients as the hardware on a PC allows me to. I have run up to 16 clients on a PC at one time. If you gave me 4 teams per color I could still run 256 bots on that PC. Disk I/O is the first bottleneck. This is mitigated by using multiple SSDs for the "datadir"s.

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we cant play 24/7 and thats the time the bgb rain down on people is when they are returning with their hard mined coins and bam all lost

Of the aggressive bots some attack the coin areas and some wait for ambush. As you stated the only difference between bot and human is the 24/7 nature of this. I was doing ambushing manually from the first days the game was released. I would send out dozens of characters from each color to opposing areas and hide them behind trees. Then wait for targets to come by and ambush them.

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and the fact that you cant look in any pocket on any color and not see a bgb thats a little extreme

I don't disagree with this. Before the recent red exodus the BGB bots were only about 2% of the generals on the map, now it is higher which is why I have started shutting them down to re-evaluate. There have been many times where there are more "BGB" players on the map than I am controlling. For example looking at the map right now the hundreds of BGBT guys that are green are NOT mine. They are holding thousands of coins. I do have some BGBT that are green, but only about 80 and they are dying off... I don't think its dissimilar for the other bots seeing them on the board, its just BGB are more recognizable, while the ones named "Apollo", "Phoebe", or random names stick out less.

Some of the bots I have used haven't been all that bad and have helped some people I am sure get coins. For example, somebody was lining up players in coin areas, then using an opponent to kill everybody that was AFK and use their players to pick up all the coins. Funny I didn't see any complaints about that on the forums. Anyway, I sent out bots I use for only attacking as they don't care about coins, to the coin areas to protect them from this scenario. I ran probably thousands of these bots over the course of the last couple of months at a loss as they didn't return coins (although they did recycle generals).


Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:30:51 PM
well like i have said months ago the bots are killing it and no one listened i had a total of 100 bots that gathered not explode track or patrol and i killed them off because i have lost faith in huc :( as of latley .. no ones cares to help the coin just take all of it and be greedy and that is why the value is so low to be honest i think its a little to late not sure if huc can recover from this blow the name of the game is already slandered and no one believes in it any more the only way to drive up the price is to eliminate smart bots and have just afk gather bots ...... but like i said i honestly think its to late the damage is already done... what was once a good idea... goes to show people with power always fuck shit up they never know when to quite and tend to push things to far i wish people would have listend to my past post about botting and how its is affecting people like me the people actually playing the game....
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:33:20 PM
and when you add a computer that never makes a mistake against people  90% of the time the computer will win .... its a fucking computer lol ..... the fact is .. is that to few people have access to what you guys have and that is whats is killing it people abusing the power and not keeping a balance you think bitcoin became 640$ because a few people had all of them i mean come on its common trading knowledge that you need the people on your side
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
and if it is going to turn into a bot war help the community of players get some smart bots going to instead of killing off all of the people that are actually playing ... buy driving them away with greed
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:38:41 PM
todays value is significantly  lower than when i wrote this and no one listened just told me bots are always gonna be in the game yes thats understandable but dont abuse the power like the main bot users have

all the bots that are in the game are fine its the ones that kill you like bgbt bots that track you for anything more than .96 of a coin i have been playing since day 1 and the game is def fading and the game is no longer fun to play when your getting killed with 1.6 coins by bgbt bots..... bots are fine but lock down an area and let the rest of the players have some coins to .... the sheer fact that people are flooding the game with bots and not giving a shit about the real people who support the game is complete bullshit... its like they have the cheat codes to the game and we have to just sit and deal with it and keep pumping money into something with a close to nothing return now ..... people with the bots need to step back and try to play the game against what they have created and they will so understand how fucked it is to have your asshole bots all over the board pick a pocket and protect that but allow the players to have some part of the map where they can play without being tracked and assassinated with close to no coins the bgb bots are everywhere so much for responsible botting people like the ones in the middle and the ones who rape all other players for .96 coins is fucked how are we supposed to fight back when we actually have to control all our guys without the computer making moves for us.... if you want this coin to grow you cant monopolize it u have to allow others to enjoy and believe in it to..... but with assholes trolling the board on every color makes the game worthless to the people who you need it to matter most to the people with all the bitcoin willing to pump it into this game but not with the fuck sticks running the board the way it is now me and most everyone else will spend our btc on something more worth while until people start to realize the bots are nice but its us as the people who control the price and the value has dropped 30x since bots were introduced.... the value used to be .0035 now .00031 big difference hopefully people will pull their heads out their asses and work as a community not a back stabbing bitch fest of asshole bots running the board chasing out all new players and human players to the point to where the board is over run by bots and the only people that will be playing are the ones who got the bot compiling to work and fuck the rest of us .... pretty fucked up when someone has to bring all the card to the table to possible get a new view on how to make this coin worth something i wont even tell anyone about it cuz of the fucked bots controlling the map why advertise a system thats broken ..... so if your like me and cant stand the bullshit that has flooded that game lets work together to make the game more fun for everyone ....... with that being said i hope someone realizes something needs to change so that this coin doesn't become just a fart in the wind like the path that its on
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:41:31 PM
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_huc has no one noticed ..... i mean seriously doge coin has a community .... dark coin even fucking pot coin where the fuck is ours guys seriously
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 09:43:38 PM
You have very logical points and I am not disagreeing. It doesn't take bots though to seize control. Although I think players looked at the chinese center control and believed they were bots. Maybe they were, but I have my doubts they were. If they were they weren't very good ones at that. You could walk right over a bunch of them until getting destructed. A real bot wouldn't allow you to do that. What they had though was a group of people working together to control the area. Snailbrain for a long time has been talking about people getting together but they don't.

The upcoming changes will impact me greatly, but I support them. Most of my play is around using the characters to attack with. They will be gone. With the increase in price there is no way I dump 500 bots on the game at a cost of 10K HUC and see what happens, especially with the plague. I will need to recode and rethink things and see how the game evolves again.

Mithral Man will likely be adding bots to his client. This is why I have mostly refrained from putting more things out. Mithral Man obviously is a very competent developer and is a much more butter GUI designer than I could ever be.

Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 09:46:29 PM
You could walk right over a bunch of them until getting destructed. A real bot wouldn't allow you to do that. What they had though was a group of people working together to control the area. Snailbrain for a long time has been talking about people getting together but they don't.

The upcoming changes will impact me greatly, but I support them. Most of my play is around using the characters to attack with. They will be gone. With the increase in price there is no way I dump 500 bots on the game at a cost of 10K HUC and see what happens, especially with the plague. I will need to recode and rethink of things and see how the game evolves again.

Mithral Man will likely be adding bots to his client. This is why I have mostly refrained from putting more things out. Mithral Man obviously is a very competent developer and is a much more butter GUI designer than I could ever be.

and thats fine but as a community we need to work together to keep a good true value to huc .... and when you can actually take yourself and put yourself in the views of the people the ones who give huc its value and make a team and try to play against your bots all day and see as a player how hard it is to even scrape up enough coin to make your 10 hours day of playing even worth a fart in the wind...... i have tried multiple time to get people together but the fact is no matter who is playing the people that are giving huc its value are the ones who only have under 100 huc and are buying and trading them just to continue playing the game..... when new people don't want to buy in and all the old people are chased out the value falls because its just a hand full of people who have enough btc to buy most the huc people are selling for dirt cheap.... i remember when people actually talked in the chatroom..... now not even a word something needs to be done or huc is going to flatline and not gradual it needs to be done soon or huc will fail... and thats y we believed in huc is because allot of us don't have allot of money to blow on bitcoin miners and compete with them  so we invest time to make alittle btc off huc but we are robbed of that to if this was bitcoin and the value went down over 300% the fucking world would stop revolving to tell everyone about it thats a significant decrease in value and doesn't look good for future players and investors and for the walking into middle to take out middle most players dont have enough coins to risk 50 coins to take out middle only to have none of them get any coins back ... thats where the players stand who wants to risk that when the rewards are so slim and even if we made it out of middle with coins we would be tracked and killed by your bots on the way back any ways so whats the point
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 10:04:09 PM
you cant become a success having only a few succeed the whole community and coin need to succeed...... and the people have to believe its worth their time sad to say my time for huc is getting very slim on top of that we have to pay 1 huc a day to use something to fight back against all bots which adds to the melting pot... and i understand your not disagreeing but you have to admit its gone a little to far on all of the bot owners parts.. and thats why the coin is dying is because we cant compete with a computer that runs 24/7 let alone multiple computers that are constantly killing all other players ....and think about it has getting more coins easier and faster done anything for the value of huc..... no it has just caused it to fall greatly ... i remember when i got 100 coins in one day that was almost 100$ especially when the coin was worth .0035 * 100 .35btc for 100 huc those were the good old days instead of having to make 6500 huc in a day to be equivalent at current value normally i wouldn't  have said a word but i wont let this coin go down without a fight
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 10:29:25 PM
just a note:
i've read around people complaining about gaining nothing respect to first days, etc...
ok, bot won the first round. bot can't be eliminated, technically speaking, and shoud be considered part of the game, this is why my attempt is to bring "bot features" to everyone

having said that, consider even that the more player will play, less "free" coin can be gathered from the game (every block generate 7 hucs in the game, 1 or 1000000 players it doesn't matter) and so there will be loosers and winners: the coin that someone will be able to gather, will be part of another player investment
so thinking about an happy world where everybody gain money playing huntercoin, couldn't be considered a reality, because the "best player" will win.

in a theorical world where huntercoin succeed, there will be players who would will live thanks to the game, and people who just try to gamble playing some for fun or whatever, and maybe just lose

of course i can't predict the future and hopefully huntercoin will go thoward a kind of competitive game, there will be some kind of marketing around, with sponsors, etc... who knows

But for sure it's better to think about playing a game that could bring you some money, rather than playing to win everyday, and my effort is to try to make huntercoin more enjoyable and "fair"
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
just a note:
i've read around people complaining about gaining nothing respect to first days, etc...
ok, bot won the first round. bot can't be eliminated, technically speaking, and shoud be considered part of the game, this is why my attempt is to bring "bot features" to everyone

having said that, consider even that the more player will play, less "free" coin can be gathered from the game (every block generate 7 hucs in the game, 1 or 1000000 players it doesn't matter) and so there will be loosers and winners: the coin that someone will be able to gather, will be part of another player investment
so thinking about an happy world where everybody gain money playing huntercoin, couldn't be considered a reality, because the "best player" will win.

in a theorical world where huntercoin succeed, there will be players who'd could live thanks to the game, and people who just try to gamble playing some or having fun or whatever, and maybe just lose

Yes, and lets just say the destruct button went away (its what separates human from bot) and the price of general was 20 HUC. Everybody would be AFK on coin spawns earning fractions of a coin per day... Nobody would win then, except maybe the miners I suppose.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
Nobody would win then, except maybe the miners I suppose.

I'm still thinking that miners are winning too much out of huntercoin :)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 10:40:37 PM
i just want it to be fair like it used to be .... i have said what was needed to be said i hope its taken for what its worth and considered to help progress the fair and fun huntercoin atmosphere
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 10:44:15 PM
and just so you know huc is my job and i spend way to much time with so little roi compared to mindless bots i thought having a mind was supposed to help in this game so that is why i have feelings about it the way i do... its getting harder and harder as a player to keep up with the bots defense and offense .... so like i said coming from a veteran player .. and if i feel this way i can surely bet im not the only one... and id hate to be a noob in this game nowadays ... not like it used to be where u could get help in the chat... i just hope things change or huc will become unused space on allot of hd's... and for someone who has been with huc since day 1 its a little disappointing to see it where t is right now .... a little crackhead on the corner trying to sell you some huc hahahaha or it will be a southpark towelie intervention for huc :P like i said hopefully something happens fast or we are gonna have a flatliner
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 10:54:05 PM

Yes, and lets just say the destruct button went away (its what separates human from bot) and the price of general was 20 HUC. Everybody would be AFK on coin spawns earning fractions of a coin per day... Nobody would win then, except maybe the miners I suppose.
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not if you have the cheat codes to not have to play the game like auto destruct and all those other whistles and bells no one else has.....and if everyone was afk and not playing the people playing would have more fun looting and the game would work better survival of the fittest not who can make the most smart bots and track you down and drive out all the people playing if they afk on coin spawn they will die by players.... no need for bots to kill everyone unless you can see its needed but anytime else its overkill as the value has stated...... did darth vader march his fleet of bots everywhere looting everyone or did he wait and send them all in when NEEDED the bots dont have to be on the board 24/7 kills the fun and value of the human interaction... which is what gave huntercoin its significant value in the first place.... the human interaction.... not bot interaction...... for instance which games are played longer ones where you play the computer all the time or the games you play other people online ... think about it... its the human interaction that gave huntercoin its initial value
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 11:02:30 PM
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no need for bots to kill everyone unless you can see its needed but anytime else its overkill as the value has stated

What is your acceptable criteria?
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:04:32 PM
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no need for bots to kill everyone unless you can see its needed but anytime else its overkill as the value has stated

What is your acceptable criteria?

what you did with your bots when middle needed to be clear thats for the community and to prolong the value of huc .... but to plague the board with bots only drives the human interaction away which results in very low value we are not paying high value for a coin to play bots we are paying high value to play other players like in the beginning ....
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:06:34 PM
the 1700 huc i have saved and got since the coin came out  and played my ass off for them back when it was all people playing and the value was .0035 is almost 6 btc ... and at today's value thats close to 20,000 ... and to see the board be plagued with bots and that value of people interaction falls to less than .08 at today's value pretty sad i shoulda sold all my huc instead of holding and believing no? only to see all my hard work and savings go down the drain ... because people want it easy instead of actually playing the fucking game u know kinda makes a person salty and to watch the value drop everyday ...... in an investors eyes to see something be worth $20,000 3 months ago be worth less than 50$  today is pretty sad to see ... you know how much planning and shit is involved on a daily basis just to clear a few pockets once a day just to make some coins and have to fight intelligent bots as well as wait half a day for a few players to get across the board just to die no wonder people arnt catching on they are being chased out... your bots are in every pocket so if someone clears a pocket your bots kill them and loot there coins every damn time doesn't seem fair when we waited all day for our guys to get there sitting next to our computer for your bots who no one is wasting time controlling kill you and loot your coins
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
and my criteria is treat it like alcohol are you gonna just pound the bottle and get blacked out... there is always a limit and as the developer of the bots system you should be marketing it not abusing the power...id pay for a good bot system to run around while i slept ...and if the value went up there would be no need for bots.... its like the diamonds i mention you dont just liquidate you assets you slowly allow it to tricle out to the people and thats what gives it value having so many bots drive down value  the only time bots should be on the board is to collect more coins when people are sleeping... there should be no auto destruct on the bots they should be mindless so the players who are working for the coins get more than the afkrs.... isnt that what all your bots are afkrs .. they control themselves you just make the script work ... kinda lame when we spend countless hours working for our coins for you to do nothing and get them all .... if the bot system you had was available for everyone then there wouldn't be an issue but its not so therefor 10% of the people control 90% of the board and they arnt even playing is it worth it to keep milking them all till the tit runs dry... if the bots were reduce the value will go back up because people will be able to play people again not mindless programed killers who always have the drop on you... when im attacking i mess up miss the block kill my own guys trying to clear a pocket thats being human bots never mess up and who wants to pay for that ... there are plenty of other coins and things to invest time and money into that are allot more valuable... this is just a friendly view on how the actual players feel about the coin and what it has turned into a good dev would fix the error and make it even better... ever bad thing about every other crypto coin that it relaid to the dev is worked on to better the coin not drive the coin till the wheels fall off... Isnt that the goal to have Human minable crypto currency... thats what huntercoin is all about .... so what happen to the humans .... as u stated laziness ..... no one every got anything being lazy so lets take this as a wake up call from one of your biggest fans the public isnt impressed
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 11:25:38 PM
I'm wondering if you are using qt wallet or mine client, because using my client, i managed to get easily 100 hucs/day this week (and i play just in the evening/night, while i code the client and test)
maybe it's because my new interface help even more about selecting targets but not much difference from current version

beside that, i don't understand your math, 6 btc now are 6*650$, ~ 4000 $
anyway if this is your job and you have to sell everyday your income, i can understand why that's a problem, but if you belive in the coin, you can take advantage of few players playing to collect as much as you can


P.S.
(my fee of 1 huc/day for the client is for testing purpose, if i had to charge for real, 1 huc/day at this value is ridiculous :D)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:30:43 PM
sorry i was typing on my phone didnt notice math was off i ment 2000 dollars
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:33:41 PM
thats the thing i try but when i elaborate a plan to clear a pocket and i have 5 guys get 40 huc and what do you know guess who just killed me bgb thats how it goes every damn time because he is everywhere and you take your eyes off one pocket for 5 blocks to manage other players bam killed by bgb thats the frustration we can only control so many people at once ... and stay sane
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 11:33:46 PM
and another note: from what i read, you are acting as a miner that goes to coin spawn area, sit there, waiting for some hucs in your pocket then go back
since you play all day long, why don't you just act as a bot, and plan ambush to others that are going to collect?
you should watch bot behaviours and learn from some of them, they have some tactics that work

most of what i've collected, comes from killing bots that are going back to home, they are easy to kill because almost don't try to evade the path back to home and are easily killable
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
you have to understand i dont have more than 10 teams on the board at once thats about my limit and that leaves me at 2 teams per color give or take or all on one color to try for some coins im an average player like 80% of the people that are going to play... and those 80% of the people are who give it value compared to a computer or bot system with hundreds of bots that fight back odds arnt very good for the average player who just bought 20 coins from an exchange you have to look at in in the peoples view... and no i dont act as a miner and sit any where i dont have more guys on the board than i can play i had a bot smb400+ but cleared them out cuz wasnt worth having dumb bots trying to get coins vs intelligent bots so i have been trickle playing off and on the last month but seems like its only getting worse the bots are getting thincker and smarter while for the humans it gets harder and harder and eventually isnt worth the time
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 11:39:12 PM
thats the thing i try but when i elaborate a plan to clear a pocket and i have 5 guys get 40 huc and what do you know guess who just killed me bgb thats how it goes every damn time because he is everywhere and you take your eyes off one pocket for 5 blocks to manage other players bam killed by bgb thats the frustration we can only control so many people at once ... and stay sane

mmm if you are using my client maybe you aren't using it at its fullness, because when you plan to kill someone, you could trigger visibility of one player color off so you can see clearly where enemies lies, and you can set to keep showing their path so you can see where they are going and when you see that they try to intercept your path, you keep changing your (using CTRL+right click to set multiwaypoint path maybe)

I admit that the current interface i'm working on is better because it's easier and more powerfull about that, but the current one works too even if it's more clunky
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 04, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
i know all of that mith.... the thing is it takes me 6 hours to get from blue to lower first green pocket so 4 of my guys are going from blue and 5 from green to same pocket ... i blow up the pocket get 40 coins and get ambushed by bgb and loose 25 coins from bgb killing me while i was planing out a route back to base 4 blocks later ... so6 hours got me 15 huc thats the average player ... you have to look at the average player mentality not your playing mentality ... not just you give huc a value its everyone so you have to work around everyone that believes in the same coin...... hence the raising of dogecoin for their nascar.... its the working together that huntercoin lacks ....and the comunity is so small 200 facebook likes on huntercoin and you gonna monopolize the 200 likes players that are giving it its value.... the value is in the public not holding all the coins in you closet for no ones esle to have .... like a golem with its precious... has to work for the people for them to support it unless all the people with bots are gonna keep buying huc and alter the price it is going no where but down..... all i have to say is if you dont listen to the people its going to fail and im about as people as it gets .... was going to present this coin at a speak i am giving on the 12th about bitcoin here locally but y would i promote a broken system and if i feel that way im sure eveyone else does which shows in the current value of huc look at the 3 month projection of huc and tell me something isnt wrong http://www.cryptocoinrank.com/Huntercoin# mcap of over 200,000 and today of a value of 90,000 thats a 50% decrease in 3 months.... the rise of the huc bots triggered the fall of huc stability
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 11:42:55 PM
you have to understand i dont have more than 10 teams on the board at once thats about my limit and that leaves me at 2 teams per color give or take or all on one color to try for some coins im an average player like 80% of the people that are going to play... and those 80% of the people are who give it value compared to a computer or bot system with hundreds of bots that fight back odds arnt very good for the average player who just bought 20 coins from an exchange you have to look at in in the peoples view... and no i dont act as a miner and sit any where i dont have more guys on the board than i can play i had a bot smb400+ but cleared them out cuz wasnt worth having dumb bots trying to get coins vs intelligent bots so i have been trickle playing off and on the last month but seems like its only getting worse the bots are getting thincker and smarter while for the humans it gets harder and harder and eventually isnt worth the time

with qt wallet version, is almost impossible to win vs bots and my client has been tried by very few people (and who understand it well keep using it since it's release), so it doesn't surprise me that people are complaining, but it's their choice, they have a tool to win, need to learn it but my scores shows it works
I even grabbed the crown this week end (but had to bank because i'm not a bot and i can't keep it while i'm sleeping :| )
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 04, 2014, 11:48:43 PM
i know all of that mith.... the thing is it takes me 6 hours to get from blue to lower first green pocket so 4 of my guys are going from blue and 5 from green to same pocket ... i blow up the pocket get 40 coins and get ambushed by bgb and loose 25 coins from bgb killing me while i was planing out a route back to base 4 blocks later ... so6 hours got me 15 huc thats the average player ... you have to look at the average player mentality not your playing mentality ... not just you give huc a value its everyone so you have to work around everyone

i've use twice your team, i've sent some of them to the opposite corners while i was sleeping, then, when i went back from work (so after ~16 hours i sent them to opposite corner) i check if some survived, then i watched around to see the better prey and ambushed him (need to take care where coins drop to prevent others grab it, and timing your others hunter moves to grab as fast as you can is another important thing)
of course i kill with a color and grab with the nearest base color

if none survived the nightly trip, then i focused on the bot trying to steal from my bank areas, taking advantage from their explosion and/or killing them

this tactic worked fine to me

anyway wait few weeks and you'll can have your hands on my new interface
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 04, 2014, 11:55:17 PM
So you are one of the players clearing out coin areas/pockets and picking up whats left? I was just thinking earlier since I am shutting off the bots patrolling that I would turn to protecting the coin spawn areas since I will put out some AFKs to sit and wait... I suppose that might be a problem with you then? :)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:00:42 AM
well i a target the people not playing the afks .... which makes the game fair why should they be protected when they afk and we are playing you know
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 05, 2014, 12:01:48 AM
So you are one of the players clearing out coin areas/pockets and picking up whats left? I was just thinking earlier since I am shutting off the bots patrolling that I would turn to protecting the coin spawn areas since I will put out some AFKs to sit and wait... I suppose that might be a problem with you then? :)

nope
sometimes i ambush single targets near bank areas of opposite colors, sometimes i try to send some hunters to collect "honestrly" some  coins in the middle blue area 2;240 - 13;260 (that seems to me quite empty now) and sometimes i wait that someone comes with many hunters to do a bloodbath, and gather what i manage to take in time

i never sent many hunters to opposite colors clearing afkers, when i send some, i just send 2-4 hunters, i do it in small scale, don't know who's sending many hunters (today that bots has done a bloodbath at blue base)


P.S.
when i tried to collect and set a return back path without watching the game, often i got stopped by your bots, so i ended up taking back what's mine, ambushing some of your bots in the way back :D
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:05:17 AM
those afk pocket are what gets me my 30 to 50 huc a day with a 6 hour trek across huntercoin nation lol not necessarily a problem just a little unfair we work so hard for those coins and why should people who are afk not get killed and looted thats the game a human minable crypto currency... ... the thing that gets me is when my other color come into a pocket and you have lets say green bgbs there that no ones playing protecting all the afks which in a way is promoting afking is ok and you wont die .... which defeats the purpose of playing.. i rely on those afk pockets to help clear the game of all the people not playing i mean keeps the game from getting over populated with standers
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:08:03 AM
bot protecting bases thats ok but the coins spawns should be fair game no guardian of the coins so to say thats just unfair to the people playing... or if your mining a pocket to protect your little mine its not about the amount of coins here we want quality game coin not quantity .. am i wrong...
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:09:48 AM
or bgb incorporate a payment system so say 12 hours of afk bots for 1 huc or .01 huc per block of bot usage or something so it costs to do nothing ya know
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:10:45 AM
or like what mith has incorp the bot into it and so everyday your bots are running the more you have the more you pay to keep them going thats how it should go... thats how it works with everything
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 05, 2014, 12:11:10 AM
Mith my comment was for spok....

I of course have no problem getting ambushed, it's part of the game. With generals costing 20 huc, I am looking forward to finishing some of my return to spawn logic.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
for you its no problem ..... bgb you make 1000's of huc per day for me it is when you dent me for 60% of my coins i worked for and your not even playing its a big problem for me thats what i was saying when i said you have to look at it from the average persons point of view the people you want investing btc and time into the game me as an average player your bots are a fucking night mare and have discourage me and many friend from even playing the game and its always fucking bgb .... so just saying man with power comes reservation and i think allot of the people with power overstood their boundaries the last few months and in result the death or struggle to keep this great idea alive
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:20:40 AM
and i have to say as an average player im one of the most active at helping and promoting huc as well as promoting the huc community but the community is starting to fade... so that is why i figured id say something about it and see what we cant or can resolve..... also write articles about you guys http://forum.huntercoin.org/index.php?topic=85.0 some that get posted to the huntercoin facebook ... so i feel like i would be a idiot not to gather us die hards and figure out how to keep this bitch alive :P
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 05, 2014, 12:25:30 AM
and i have to say as an average player im one of the most active at helping and promoting huc as well as promoting the huc community but the community is starting to fade... so that is why i figured id say something about it and see what we cant or can resolve..... also write articles about you guys http://forum.huntercoin.org/index.php?topic=85.0 some that get posted to the huntercoin facebook ... so i feel like i would be a idiot not to gather us die hards and figure out how to keep this bitch alive :P

I agree, this is all good discussion. Are there any other bot controllers that want to speak up?
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:40:31 AM
thank you guys for listening and working towards a solution i have high hopes for huc and have given up allot to get what i have of it and to me its worth alot more than 6 cents if my friends want to play i wont give up any coins for anything less than .0015 btc or 1$ and they like that person to answer questions ... person to ask for technical help they buy huc all day for 1$ thats y i am a little displease with the current value on polinex ... which triggered this discussion hahah  ..... which i hope triggers a solution to help keep this great idea going... i dont have allot of money but my voice is one of the first in the area and is heard by many. all i gota say is google bitcoins in spokane hahahaha and there u go or bing it https://www.bing.com/search?q=bitcoins+in+spokane&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=bitcoins+in+spokane&sc=0-12&sp=-1&sk=&ghc=1&cvid=c5390b900cee4967856f0eb1062b1757 im the one many come to for knowledge and ideas so i could help huc more than you know but i cant help it when the coins are so hard to get and worth almost nothing no average player is gona keep pounding away they will give up soon after the 5 10 or 20 huc they have gotten is gone.... thats what we dont want they need to get enough back to make it fun and profitable for everyone .... i think the people with the bots have got enough huc now to make a good amount of money if only the value would go up so maybe we should try to go backwards to when it was worth allot and thats when there were little or close to no bots ruining the enviormnet
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:43:22 AM
i think the golden ticket on the value of huc was the human interaction and once that died so did its value
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 12:49:47 AM
nice save on that blue bs3 who tried to loot ya lol
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: BGB on June 05, 2014, 12:59:58 AM
Those green bgb that was talking about bs3 and cursing in the chat is not me. I would rarely ever chat anyway from a bot. Why force them into a pending.
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 05, 2014, 01:00:50 AM
hahah i was that blue!!!!
i was trying to take screenshot but triggered destruct too early while taking the screen rofl
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 05, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/37neLs1.jpg)

seen? i was trying to take some screenshot to show how to place yourself, it was an hard doublekill what i had in mind, but while i was taking screen and changing players i pressed "apply" on the destruct mode, 2 blocks early

my goal was timing the destruct when both hunters were in range (hard timing, sure, but feasible)

anyway from screenshot you can see i placed blue lines on my targets, and yellow on hunters near me that could steal hucs

(currently i'm recreating a new "My Troop" Window so you see the old one over the new (that has just a bare incomplete skeleton)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 01:09:12 AM
hahahahahahaha thats awesome hahahaha mith see thats why it would be allot more fun to have allies :P you almost did have that 20 huc and yeah i am fairly good with mith client just find myself doing to much and i always get caught by bgb bots hahaha but that was a great try i was actually  watching the play using mith client :P thats how i saw it hahaha the fuck bs3 message poped up hahaha new client looks really flashy :P by the way
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 05, 2014, 01:15:09 AM
hehe :)

yes I'm doing new interface implementing an html5 interface into the client itself, a bit tricky but allow me to do a lot of things with the interface (not just look&feel)
and the future bot system will need an advanced user interface so i had to do this heavy step :)
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: Mithril Man on June 05, 2014, 01:18:43 AM
and since you are a regular user of my client, if you feel you need some feature, you can talk me about that in this forum:
http://forum.huntercoin.org/index.php?board=10.0

one useful feature i think i will add is an "alarm" to warn the user when a block height has been reached or (an advanced one) when an enemy reach a selected point
Title: Re: Responsible Botting...
Post by: spokanebitcoinmine on June 05, 2014, 01:35:25 AM
thank you i appreciate it ..... and i think that would be nice like a early warning for those standers